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3 years 5 months ago - 3 years 5 months ago #172 by richardh9935
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Dear Canberra Joomla users,

The great benefit of having a Canberra Joomla users group is that I could meet some of you and find out my knowledge gaps.

Lucky me, I've recently joined four clubs, two of which use Joomla and two who want to use Joomla. And they've decided I'm the best one for the job, despite not really knowing how to spell Joomla. Thus, I'm relying on previous experience with ICT in general, and a version 1.5 book from the library, which is badly written.

I'm also a sociable person who has some reading difficulties.

Before I go mad, I want some face-to-face help, please.

Could some of you more experienced people please offer to meet somewhere within 50km of Civic post office for a couple of hours on a Thursday, Saturday or Sunday? You choose location. I'm willing to buy coffee for all (if less than 25 attendees).

Typical questions:
    Which Joomla book is good for true beginners?
    Which glossary explains the concepts unique to Joomla (ie Menus seems a special term; sections and categories are not orthogonal; everything is an object in a php database;)
    How many years of experience in ICT or maths should J.administrators have already?

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3 years 5 months ago - 3 years 5 months ago #173 by sozzled
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Excellent suggestion. The JUG Canberra group is very small (and the offer of coffee sounds very inviting).

Another way of us getting together, face-to-face, is to use Skype. I don't mind spending an hour or two doing something like that. B) (Details of my Skype address are in my user profile, by the way).

Obviously, books for beginners that deal with J! 1.5 are not appropriate in these days. I started with a couple of J! 1.5 books and my personal library has grown. This is what I have now:
  • Beginning Joomla! From Novice to Professional, Dan Rahmel, Apress 2007. Not a bad introduction to J! 1.5 but it's quite out of date and I wouldn't recommend it.

  • Joomla! A User's Guide, Barrie M. North, Prentice Hall 2008. Another J! 1.5 book that's also dated. Not as good as Dan Rahmel's but still quite acceptable if you need a very basic J! 1.5 primer.

  • Learning Jooma! 1.5 Extension Development, Joseph LeBlanc, Packt Publishing 2007. For a more advanced "introduction" to building Joomla extensions. The entire extension development framework was overhauled in J! 1.6 with the introduction of MVC.

  • Using Joomla! Building Powerful and Efficient Websites, Ron Severdia and Kenneht Crowder, O'Reilly Media 2010. A much better coverage of J! 1.5 with an introduction to J! 1.6. Again, this book contains dated information. I know Ron personally (met him a few years ago in San Francisco). Louis Landry—whom I've also met—who wrote the foreword to the book, is one of the people who helped developed the Joomla MVC framework. Very readable.

  • Using Joomla! Efficiently Build and Manage Custom Website, 2nd edition, Ron Severdia and Jennifer Gress, O'Reilly Media 2014. This update by Ron covers J! 3.x (up to J! 3.1). Probably the best book I've seen and I recommend it. Ryan Ozimek—I met him at Joomla and Beyond in Holland in 2013—who wrote the foreword to the book was the Vice-President of Open Source Matters, Inc. (the organisation behind Joomla!).

So there's a start. There are a few books published by Open Source Matters but, according to my sources, they're not all that good.

In addition to these, it might be an idea to invest time (and money, if you'd like to build your reference library) in researching CSS, PHP programming, DHTML, SQL and all the other bits and pieces that encompass "web-craft"

To find more about the terms used in Joomla, the best guide I would recommend is to search the Joomla documentation site . That site also contains a few tutorials on how certain things work. Very useful if you're into developing Joomla extensions.

What kind of experience should someone have to manage a Joomla website? When I was at Joomla and Beyond in 2013, the Joomla community was discussing a certification program. I haven't seen much progress in putting this together since that time but I understand that there's a working group on the project. Formal qualifications and/or experience in mathematics or ICT are not pre-requisites in my opinion. The main requirement is a good imagination, the ability to learn from others and tap into their experiences and, generally-speaking, having a good sense of humour are probably the most important characteristics that we need.

Web-craft is a combination of skill, practice, perseverence, patience, research, tolerance (for when things go wrong) with a little touch of folklore—the things that people tell you, or the things that you do in a slightly quaint or bizarre manner, that seem to work.

So, if this helps, I'm pleased. If you'd like to follow any of this up with further questions on this forum or contact me for a Skype chat, it would be my pleasure.


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