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4 years 4 months ago #109 by enicholls
Hi All, hope you are all well.

Michael I have some questions about Kunena and thought you would probably be the best person to ask.

We have a customer that wants a series of forum sites but they want to lock them down somewhat and heavily restrict what people can do on them.

They want a single moderator that can post topics and moderate the forums. Regular users cannot start topics. Also they only want to receive a handful (say 5) replies to the topic then stop. Is this possible?

The forum sites are for the motor industry but they envisage the forum turning into (like most forums) a series of arguments on how to fit a quarter panel to a Holden Barina which they want to avoid.

I would be interested to know your thoughts and thank you in advance for taking the time to reply.

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Elliot

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4 years 4 months ago #110 by sozzled
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I'm sorry I overlooked this topic, Elliot. I've replied to your email.

I'll get back to you tomorrow with some further thoughts, tips, "instructions" on how to resolve the matters you've raised here.

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4 years 4 months ago #111 by enicholls
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Great, look forward to hearing back from you.

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4 years 4 months ago - 4 years 4 months ago #112 by sozzled
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This is one of those questions that has been kicking around the Kunena community for several years (as long as I can remember). Fortunately, Kunena has (since the time of J! 1.6) the means to allow the site manager to control who can create new topics and who can reply to new topics. It's all done with Joomla's ACLs.

The specific question that you've asked, viz. allowing a moderator (or perhaps even a certain moderator) to create new topics , is not really any different to allowing any person (or group of people) those same rights. The right to create a new topic is not specifically limited to forum moderators or site administrators, however. The major difference between forum moderators/administrators and other users is their ability to lock topics, ban users, delete (or edit) other users' messages and move topics from one category to another.

Supposing, for the sake of argument, that we take the literal case of assigning a user account (and the account happens to belong to a forum moderator) with the ability to create new topics, the first thing to do is to assign that account a Joomla ACL. I'm sure you know how to do that, Elliot, but for the sake of others reading this topic who may be unfamiliar with the concept, I've discussed the procedure in the following video presentation:



Let's say, for the sake of argument, that you assign your user to the ACL group "moderators". The next step is easy. Using the Kunena Category Manager, change the category permissions as shown in the following image:



The second part of your question deals with limiting the number of replies to a topic before it is locked. Again, this question has been the subject of a some discussion at the Kunena forum, but there really isn't an automatic solution to this "problem" (if, indeed, it's a problem at all). B)

My advice in dealing with the "issue" of locking a topic after a reaching an arbitrarily set number of replies should really be left in the hands of the forum moderator(s). Automating these kinds of things is both lazy and inherently counter-producive. The forum moderator (or the person "in charge", whatever that may mean) should be able use their discretion. If topics become supercharged or overheated, the moderator can intervene appropriate; this may include locking a topic from further discussion, deleting the incendiary messages, or let the flame-throwers know that they're not assisting the discussion with their antics.
Speaking personally, my knowlege (and interest) in a Holden Barina wouldn't span more than one picosecond's thought; but, yeah, I get your point ... I suppose :unsure:

If the moderators are not doing their job effectively (or they're allowing topics to ramble on ad nauseam) then maybe the problem is not the lack of automated control mechanisms. These are human problems and are best left to humans to resolve them instead of trying to conform people to technological constraint. That's my opinion, for what it's worth.

I hope this helps give your customer food for thought. I'm only to happy to answer any follow-up question(s) you may have.

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4 years 4 months ago #122 by enicholls
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Hi Michael
Thanks for the reply and all the information. I was fairly sure it wasn't possible to limit replies to a thread and I agree with you that it should be "moderated" by the moderator. Unfortunately, our clients know the people they choose to do this wont do it and so wanted it to be automated.
I'll go back to them and tell them this.
Thanks once again for your reply.

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